The Tim Heale Podcasts S4 E9 Tim's Rant's

This episode is my report on The ReformUK Party Conference held in Manchester on 3 October 2021, I have kept it brief but hope I covered the main point of the day.

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The Tim Heale podcasts, ordinary people's extraordinary stories.

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Welcome to series four of the Tim Heale podcast in this series is Tim having to rent and he's me. So if you enjoy having a bit of a rant and going on about what's going on in today's society, stay tuned. If we go, when I listened to me rent, well, you can always turn me. Welcome to Tim's rents this time on good doses, something slightly different. The other day on Sunday, October 3rd, 2021, I attended the reform UK party conference in Manchester.

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And this is going to be my report of that conference. This is the first time I've ever been to a, any political party conference. And it was quite well run, although they did start running slightly behind, but that always happens at these scenes, I guess. Anyway, the reform UK party is a core party of common sense. And I'll go through that as the day, went on, everybody to garbage spoke just made sense. I common sense that the reform UK party looking at doing is getting into power.

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If I get into power, they will make so many changes for the better for this country. Anyway, we were welcomed by Paul Oakton, the chief executive of reform UK. He opened a conference and welcomed everybody. And then he introduced John Kelly, who was the heir or who is the area manager for the Northwest. And he welcomed all the attendees and he gave a, an overview of Manchester and a bit of Manchester's history and why the conference was held there.

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He then introduced Manchester's miracle, candida, Nick Buckley, MBA, Nick went on and gave his insight and ambitions for the future. He had a clear, loud message in the last election, 70% of the electorate hadn't used their vote and encouraged everybody to spread the word and to encourage people to go out and vote. I personally think they should bring in the same as they do in Australia. Compulsory voting.

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If, if you vote voting age, you must attend a vote in station to cast a vote. Whether you're spoiled a vote or not is irrelevant, but you have to go and vote. That is the only way that we'll ever get a majority of anything. People are all too good complaining about the government. And then when you ask them, well, did you vote for him? No, I don't vote. Stop complaining is your answer there. If you don't vote, you don't get a choice of complaining. End of story.

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If you go and vote, yes, you might vote for the opposite party. Then you got the, then you can complain, but if you don't turn to vote, forget it. Anyway, it moved on to the second guys that came up onto the stage and they were introduced as Darby councilors. And these two guys had the same name, Alan Graves and Alan groves, Jr. They fought in the local elections back in may and along with four other colleagues took six of the 51 seats in the Darby council and they pride themselves on being an absolute thorn in the side for the council.

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They are holding the rest of the council to task. They've overturned several, several policies that have saved Darby, taxpayers, millions so long may that last, and let's get more local guys and girls into local councils to be able to start getting this let's build the reform UK party from the ground up from local councils, parish councils, and then just build out and less the reform UK party in as the government. That's what I'd like to say.

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Anyway, next up on a stage was a coy doer. He was from Wales and what a powerful speech wall we need this guy. He, he guys such a, such a powerful speech. It was brilliant. It held the whole hall captivated and following on from him. I mean, he, he gave the situation as it sits in a moment in Wales, how blue the situation is under a labor government at the moment. And he said, why needs this change?

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And along with Wales, a great nation, the rest of the country is a great nation. And we need this party to get in or feel sorry for Dr. David Ball that followed him. However he did hold his own and was just as good putting across what he did or what his role was within the party. As a deputy leader, supporting the leader and the rest of the executive, Dr. David Ball has come from a media background where he started off as a proper doctor, and then he got involved with television and he brings a lot of expertise from the media side of life, apparent on lots and lots of TV programs.

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He's had his own program at one stage for children, and he's passionate about reforming the NHS, stopping no waste and bring in about zero mightiness. He record it. It's possible that the systems are in place for it to happen. Now, after that, we had a bit of a, a short break for a cup of coffee. And then when we came back in, after the break, a young lady of 22, just finished her degree called Dominic Samuel's came with a refreshing view of, of youngsters and the way young people feel at the moment she's, she's got over 84,000 followers on Twitter.

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She's a, a political commentator writer, and she appears on lots of lots of programs like talk radio and GB news. And it was good to see that she had managed to get her degree despite a depend DEMEC. And that she explained the difficulties in getting that during the pandemic. It's not difficult, it was difficult, but the education system has to be there for the young people and not for the teachers. The teachers are there to be able to teach and for the teaching unions to keep pulling or to closing down schools, et cetera, is unacceptable.

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And this is the point that she put across. And the cost of a university education needs to be looked at, particularly over the last two years where students have actually not been able to get face to face teaching. So that was really, really powerful speech. Then Paula Oakton came back on to the stage and he gave his view of the future of the party. And he explained that anybody that was a, a paid up member of the Brexit party was now, or a supporter at the Brexit party is now going to be a full member of reform UK of which I am.

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Now, one of them, I supported the, the, the Brexit party. And now as a consequence, I'm a full member of the reform UK party. Paul gave his account of the government government's filings over the last 18 months. Otherwise they've taken away our freedoms and with such ease as well. And we have sat back and let it happen. He gave his vision that the reform UK party will hold any government to task and hopefully in the next elections. And we kind of think that it's going to be in about 20 months time. The party is going to field 600 candidates across the country, hopefully in every constituency in the country.

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And we ain't going to step down one single candidate. We're going to fight every single state in the country. That's our ambition at the moment. And I've got over 300 candidates, all vetted and signed up. They reckon by Christmas and we'll have another, we'll be up to 400. So it's not far to go to get to the 600 by the next election. Next up came Isabelle outshot well, she's a political commentator. She's, she's not affiliated to any predict political party.

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And her assessment on this government was scathing. She didn't hold back. She gave me both barrels. She gave the reasons why this government has filed from the topics of immigration Tandon, the pandemic and the shortage of drivers and the food shortages that we're likely to see in this country because of shortages. And she said, it's all down to this government. I wasn't going to argue with her. And she fought so forceful for that. Then the leader of the party came onto the, to the stage, rounding off a thought provoking morning.

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He started by thanking everybody who turned up to the event and he gave his vision for the economic growth and recovery of the country. And we've loved will be the envy of the world. Once again, he mentioned reforming the, the NHS and his passion for it and reviewing the inefficiencies of the NHS management structure. But he said that Dr. David Ball was going to give a full brief on that later in the day, which he did no come to that. Eventually he also said that they've hired a bus with a slogan.

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That's going round round Manchester at the moment saying the taller, the Tori boiler ban will freeze your Grande, which apparently has got up, not just to the good server tips. I'd seen a bus myself, but the, the tour is going on about the emissions. And again, rid of gas, boilers hanging to work, just, you know, work, whatever and take into consideration is hourly. If we get rid of the gas and an S a problem at the moment, because we farmed out a gas storage to the Dutch so they can turn off the tap at any anytime.

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And this is one of the other things that that's been going on, and I'll come onto the energy and emissions crisis a little bit later. So anybody after, after Richard Tyson finished he's oh, no. He went on a bit more. He highlighted that the fact that the Chinese are most of our utilities companies and could switch off our gas, electric, and water at a drop of a hat. This is something that needs to be addressed and it needs to be addressed fairly quickly. We can't allow our utilities to be sold off to foreign companies.

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Is it just doesn't make any sense. No other country in the world does it. The Americans have got written into their constitution that no foreign company can operate or buy up any of their utilities, any of their infrastructure. We should instigate that why the government sold off our utilities and our infrastructure is beyond belief. It's so easy for a foreign power to hold us over a barrel. Anyway, we then stopped for lunch.

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After lunch, we came back in and we had a view from, from the, the situation in Scotland, by a guy called David Kirkwood, who is a candidate for Scotland. And he highlighted the reality of the filings and the draconian measures that the SMP have imposed on the population leading to freedoms, being taken away from the people of Scotland. The SMP have done a particularly bad in Scotland. I really lost 10 years from filings on the NHS to having the highest drugs related deaths in the Western world.

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It just buggers belief and they just haven't tackled that problem. Nicholas sturgeon is so hell bent on getting independence for Scotland, that it occupies everything that the SNP do. And I don't concentrate on any of the issues in Scotland after David next up was a guy called Alex Wilson. He was a Tory party candidate who stood any Amersham and Chesham by-election back in just a short while ago. Well, no, he didn't. When he put the name of the reform party UK out there, he gave his view of the situation in London and how I candidate was fielded in every ward in London, in a assembly elections back in my, he then introduced to candidates from London who will be standing in the next election.

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And their aim is to give people in London, a choice after that, after them Kirstie Walmsley gave up passionate speech about the education system and how it had filed not only her children, but also children across the whole of the UK, especially during a lockdown, she spoke of how the education system had UN had been underfunded for decades, and the changes were needed going forward. And she outlined some of the changes that could be made to, to bring this about following her was Julianne Mullins, QC.

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He stood as the police and crimes commissioner in well, a wheelchair twice as it had to be re run due to the conservative candidate, being a crook that, that guide whole conference, a bit of a giggle. He then went on to speak how, when we get into government, we would improve the criminal and civil justice system. He would be clear in the backlogs of the criminal trials, unexplained, why we've got such a backlog backlog in criminal trials, and he was reviewing the legal aid system and how that needed some really serious shakeups because anybody and everybody is entitled to at a moment in time altar to legal aid.

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And he was saying that most of the criminals that are being charged have fastens of pounds and don't need that legal aid then continuing on from Richard Tice, his earlier presentation, Patrick Behnam Croswell gave more in depth in reviews of what the party's policy was on energy and emissions. And he was staying in how, how the, the, the party was going to do things. What I want to do is get the emissions down, keep the lights on and not break the economy.

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He outlined plans for, for doing away with the net zero net zero. He said just doesn't work. Especially since the IP CDC had given us a target, which was higher than zero that we could actually meet. He said, it's absolutely impossible for any country to meet zero emissions. It's just not possible because you've got to get power from somewhere and power is it just generates carbon emissions. And he went on to say, and how we need to take back our utilities and how to build on what we've got.

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And we need to invest in renewables, modular nuclear reactors, supply by row rolls Royce. And we need a lot of those across the country. We need to invest in, in wife power, and we need to start extracting shale gas to become self sufficient and to take back control of our utilities. He also set out, set out how these initiatives would be funded, then kind, Claire Fox Baroness, Fox of Buckley, who addressed the conference in a light of cancel culture.

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She isn't affiliated to any political party, but she goes around and she speaks to everybody. And she doesn't believe in canceling in anybody. She believes in de biting everything and free speech particularly underpins our society. And if you take away our free speech, you take away our liberties. And she gave a very, very thought provoking speech. And that led into the afternoon break. Coming back after the break, we had a retired Lieutenant Colonel Dominick Morehouse gave his personal perspective on reforming the armed forces and highly hive highlighted the need to reform the procurement procedure because it broken.

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He also gave examples of the fiasco surrounding the retrieved from Qubole. We heard about a death by suicide of a veteran base soldier who felt helpless to aid and interprets a friend and his family stranded in Qubole. This veteran had thought he and his fellow comrades had made a positive difference to the people of Afghanistan, but all the good has been overturned and innocent lives are now left in the hands at the Taliban. He spoke of lives, lost and mental anguish, and veterans now suffer.

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Join this situation in Afghanistan. And I'm one of those, but you know, where I come from on that anyway, moving on Dr. David Ball then had two attempts at delivering his presentation to reform the health service and a care system halfway through his, his presentation. Some bright spot decides that they didn't like his policies. So they set off a fire alarm. And we had to clear the building after they, the fire brigade and every been in and check the building.

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It was found that somebody had done this maliciously clearly summary, then like the policies that come in. So basically the policies that to reform the, the NHS will be first to get zero waiting lists. And the set out that this can be achieved within it months. Then the second point was to improve the management and reduce waste. The third point was to put control back in hands of the patients. And the final point April out was to build resilience into the system.

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And he spoke at length on how this was achievable and gave his view on how it should be done and listening to him, I believe it can be done, but a problem is anybody that saw mentions anything to do with reforming the NHS is then frowned upon and ostracized. So it's going to take some real bold plans to get this through. And if we can get into power, I believe that we can do it.

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Finally. Richard Tice, Dan concluded the day by keeping Britain safe and secure. And then he went on to the way that we would do this by achieving zero tolerance on crime, zero tolerance on antisocial behavior and zero tolerance on illegal immigration. He also said that we need to say the police on a street and not policing tweets. Well, we can all hope that they do that. The way to bring down crime is to get bobbies on the beak.

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We know if you see a cop coming down the street, you're not going to be doing anything no way, but for the police to go around policing tweets, somebody said something horrible to somebody. Yeah, whatever he wants to say, better leadership at the head of the police and improve the management of the police service, which had also said some said the same about the border force and its management needs sorting out. He wants to say foreign convicted criminals at the end of their sentences, deported without question.

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And I think he's right on that one. Why do we want to keep convicted foreign criminals? I shouldn't shouldn't, it's the same as the illegal immigrants and equal migrants, they should be returned to where they came from. Without question, they're not asylum seekers, true asylum seekers, hang on to their documents to prove who they are. They don't fry them away and they'd kind of be somebody else it's wrong. Anyway, he wound up the, the conference thanked everybody for coming.

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And I think the whole conference the whole day was really uplifting and gave a real positive vibe for the future. I, for one will be supporting reform UK and doing what I can to help get them into power. I don't think I'm a candidate for standing for election, but I will do everything I can to help out. Whoever is again, I'll thank you for your time. I thank you for listening. Hi, we wasn't to all roundness for you, but hopefully I'll give you an idea of what a different look, a different party from net.

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